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quater mile times

Postby veg_10 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:59 pm

hey i was curious what sort of time would a standard t2 do a quater mile ( 400 m) at just wondering

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Postby James » Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:11 pm

16.8 is the factory quoted from memory. Not 100% sure but it as definately somewhere in the 16's ,could be a little faster than .8 tho.

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Postby si » Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:06 pm

In standard form, the Honda City Turbo is a car that can hold it's own against most of the eras four cylinder 'performance cars'. From the factory, the Turbo II was able to sprint across the 400m (¼ mile) mark in a respectable 16.2 seconds. As a comparison, here are some 400m times of some 'hot hatches' of the era:

Suzuki Swift GTi 16.6
Nissan Pulsar ET Turbo 16.7
Mitsubishi Cordia Turbo 16.9
Honda City Turbo II 16.2

Thats in the info base... Here

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Postby James » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:55 am

My bad, knew it was in the infobase somewhere, was just too lazy too go look for it.

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Postby 2fast4u » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:31 pm

are turbo 11's fater then starlet gt's?

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Postby kartracer » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:39 pm

on average probably not. you can make a t11 go faster than most starlets with some work. i have seen a starlet here in new zealand run an 11second pass. and i havnt seen a city turbo come close to that.

most starlets and citys will both run 14's with mild mods. the starlet has a bit more potential i would say.
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Postby 2fast4u » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:41 pm

oh k i thought that the city turbo would be faster, would it match with the starlet gt turbo in it

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Postby kartracer » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:46 pm

perhaps, i think that could be quite a good city upgrade, im not too sure if its been done.

im sure theres a starlet forum somewhere and you could see what times they run.

btw 2fast4u i see your in auckland! we dont know anyone else driving a city turbs up here. we should compare rides sometime if u want.

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Postby James » Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:55 pm

IMHO that is a silly engine swap. A d-series would provide a much better platform for modification if your going to all that trouble.

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Postby kartracer » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:13 pm

i do believe he was refering to the turbo, not the engine.

your obviously reading at the speed of light instead of studying bigelboe!!!

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Postby James » Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:41 am

Ah my bad, I think that turbo is a little small anyway, dont they only make the same sort of power as Us stock? Or maybe 10 or 20 more HP and they only run 8psi or something, wonder what the turbos efficiency is like at 15psi

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Postby city_cabriolet » Wed Jun 21, 2006 10:17 am

Nah big, they make 110kw stock. not 110hp.

The engines are cheap, i've brought it up before and the simple answer was they face the opposite direction to a honda, so you'd have 5 gears that propell you backwards :shock:

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Postby James » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:02 am

Found Specs:135 ps (99.29 kw) / 6400 rpm, and that is at 11.7psi,16.0 kg*m (156.91 N*m) / 4800 rpm, where city torque is Largest torque (kg-m/rpm) 16.3/3,000.

This is at nearly the same boost as a cityturbo. So big deal, they make ~20 more Hp, the main reason for that is their higher power band they make that power 1000rpm higher than we do, that means our engines actually make more torque, which I recon makes for a more driveable car. Making more torque at 1500 lower revs makes the car a lot better drive IMHO, but yes the starlet turbo is probably a bit bigger, the city one is nice and small to give great torque and good around town driving.

The engines do have some impressive potential, but then again if you spent some decent money on a city engine they have f**king good potential too.

If someone spent as much money on making a city turbo go fast as some WRX and the like owners pay for a body kit of a new gearbox we would have som seriously quick cars, the only reason that you dont see cities peeling off 11 and 12 second passes is that no one has bothered to try. I believe with good tuning and parts you could make 200WHP from a city motor, and that with an LSD would probably get you down the 1/4 in the 11's.

As for the starlet swap you would have to use the starlet gearbox too, that solves your rotation issues, wouldnt be too hard, just have to weld some engine mounts to the chassis rails

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Postby Colza » Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:52 pm

Being many years ahead of a City in terms of head design and the advantage of being crossflow, I think you will find that with a little tickle a GT Starlet would go much faster than a City.

Such as these:
91 GT Starlet
114kw atw @ 9 psi
13.94 @ 158.50km/hr

11.84 @ 116mph BOOOST Bodykit.co.nz Toyota Starlet GT Ep82

13.5 @ 109 MPH Toyota Starlet GT

13.5 @ 173.3kmph Toyota Starlet GT

13.6 @ 106.5mph Toyota Starlet GT with T3

14.52 @ 153km/h Toyota Starlet EP71 4efte

Aside from the onei n the 11's all of the above are only 'mildly' modified with bigger turbos, better exhausts and intercoolers.

I have yet to see a city in this country run times anywhere close to those.

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Postby James » Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:40 pm

Yeah the fact its dohc 16 valve is something I didn't consider and it will probably have quite significant implications on the power potential.

How hard does the swap look? Ive beenr eading a bit about the engines and it seems they respond well to a big turbo more boost upgrade on standard internals


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