Other motors for City

[ste]

What other motors fit (easily) into a City? I've been offered a similar age Civic but the distributor's on the other side plus a few other differences. The local wrecker says that a Civic motor will bolt straight in. Does anyone know if he's right or not?
Apart from fitting a turbo city motor what else can I do with a tired city?

[BOOSTBOY]

put rings and bearings in it to freshen it up.  Buy a toyota supercharger and run it in place of the A/C compressor.  Get a weber from a cortina/escort which will need a few small mods for forced induction and make or buy an adapter for the stock manifold.  Get a big 'cooler on the front of it as well as a big BOV or two small ones.

For under $1000 you could have a Honda City Supercharged!

Just an idea...

[Turbo2]

Yeah a supercharged city??? ;D


;D

[Michael]

You cant have a blow off valve on a supercharged car.

[city_boy_t1]

Yes you can.

I have an article about a toyota corrolla fxgt which has a supercharged motor turboed and he has to run double everything.  2 i/coolers, boost gauges, pod filters, BOVs etc.

When i look at that......hmmmmmm.........supercharged and turboed city  ;D
Just a though

cheers

BOB

[BOOSTBOY]

You HAVE to have one on a blow thru supercharged setup.  When you close the throttle the supercharger keeps producing boost, unlike a turbo.  Closed throttle and a blower makikng boost againgst it can easily bend throttle shafts.  Not a good thing, especially when you open it up again and it sticks open...

[doggystyle]

you should see the bovs they use on the 6000hp top fuel cars.. although they call them pop off valves

[doggystyle]

sorry.. they mainly use them in case of a reverse backfire, with out one it would blow the inlet side to pieces

[QikLude]

[quote author=BOOSTBOY link=board=GEN;num=1059548018;start=0#5 date=07/31/03 at 09:14:07]You HAVE to have one on a blow thru supercharged setup.  When you close the throttle the supercharger keeps producing boost, unlike a turbo.  Closed throttle and a blower makikng boost againgst it can easily bend throttle shafts.  Not a good thing, especially when you open it up again and it sticks open...[/quote]

well, your a tad off here...

take a common S/c car like a toyota levin, the roots type s/c has a clutch type assembly in it so it knows when not to boost, REAL simple and effective.
so no need for a BOV there....
put on in a city, all you would do is run a pin switch off the gas pedal or something similar.

A pop off valve is used differently to a BOV.

[ste]

Thanks for all the replies. I'd still like to know if a Civic motor will fit into a City.

[QikLude]

[quote author=ste link=board=GEN;num=1059548018;start=0#9 date=07/31/03 at 18:47:46]Thanks for all the replies. I'd still like to know if a Civic motor will fit into a City.[/quote]

the early civics used the same block, the ER motor series.

so you can mess round with them, bust as for anything new?

I doubt it, not without some serious firewall bending

Jw

[BOOSTBOY]

[quote author=QikLude link=board=GEN;num=1059548018;start=0#8 date=07/31/03 at 16:23:49]

well, your a tad off here...

take a common S/c car like a toyota levin, the roots type s/c has a clutch type assembly in it so it knows when not to boost, REAL simple and effective.
so no need for a BOV there....
put on in a city, all you would do is run a pin switch off the gas pedal or something similar.

A pop off valve is used differently to a BOV.
[/quote]

They use a bypass valve.  If the blower was stopped, the engine would have a hard time sucking throught it.  The blower doesnt stop during gearchanges on a 4AGZE, only on extended periods of low load running.

[DR86]

True, Bypass-valves are the real "blow-off'' valves. Blow-off valves are an over-pressure-valve, to prevent over boosting, they can be seen on ET Pulsars, VL turbos and FJ20et engines. Nizpro use those (in many cases) in place of a waste-gate to control boost. ... Thanks for the FCD Glenn.

I had possesion of one of those by-pass-valves off the 4AGZE. Was going to 'try' and use it, but my friend needed it back for his Rolla. Looked crap anyway.

As for an different engine? What type of Civic you mean? ER based or B##A? Would take a lot of frankenstiening for the B##A types. Possible, but...

[city_boy_t1]

Dont know if this sounds crazy and maybe impossible to drop a b16a into a city.  Imagine that for a change a VTEC city  ;D I sure as hell wouldnt mind one but no way am i rich enough to build one  :(

[doggystyle]

you can still suck through a blower with the normal vacum though it just doesnt have as much power but it does it easily